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Unsticking Stuck Caliper Bolts

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:46 pm
by MSW
Since many probably didn't see it in the brake pad thread, I'll embarrass myself by asking the question again here. :oops:

I'm trying to change the front brake pads on my 2005 Baggie for the first time since the bike rolled off the showroom floor (6 years, for the math-challenged). I knew the bolts would be stuck but good, but these haven't budged a millimeter. I've soaked both the heads and ends of the bolts overnight with penetrating fluid, but no luck. I even rounded off one of the small inner bolts (predictably), and when I drilled it and tried to remove it with the screw extractor, the screw extractor broke off in the bolt. :shock:

Anyway, I'm really worried about damaging a part that can't easily be replaced, so I haven't tried anything further. My first thought was heating the bolts with a propane torch, which works on things like the sprocket bolts, but I don't want to warp anything (or ruin the finish on the caliper, if I can help it).

Any brilliant ideas? Have I missed something horrible, like "you idiot, those are reverse-threaded screws!" I'm feeling as stuck as one of these bolts.

Thanks in advance for any insight/advice/magic tricks you want to share.

Re: Unsticking Stuck Caliper Bolts

PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:29 am
by Bill Jurgenson
the only cure for a Grimeca caliper is the waste bin.

Re: Unsticking Stuck Caliper Bolts

PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:29 am
by Bill Jurgenson
the only cure for a Grimeca caliper is the waste bin.

Re: Unsticking Stuck Caliper Bolts

PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:53 am
by Old Dog
Bill is right, get a brembo. Skorpion (could be the same for baghira) uses the one off the Mito - relatively cheap on ebay. Total transformation, gone is the on off switch and hello to responsive brakes.

Re: Unsticking Stuck Caliper Bolts

PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:04 am
by edfmaniac
Try using a float punch that will fit inside the hex socket and a decent sized mallet to tap on the bolts before trying to back them out. This process works miracles on stubborn threads. Don't break anything off by using too much force. A lot of lighter strikes will still get the job done. If you want a cool tool, they also make a device that combines this striking action with the twisting action of a wrench. I forget what they are called but you set the direction, like a ratchet, and when you hit it with a mallet, it gives a slight twist. Good luck.

Re: Unsticking Stuck Caliper Bolts

PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:56 am
by MSW
Thanks for the suggestions, guys.

Bill and Old Dog, I would love to put anything other than the crap Grimeca caliper on the Baggie, but as far as I know, there is no convenient replacement part. I seem to recall a couple of guys across the pond getting an older model VFR caliper to work, but I think even that required a modification to the bracket. If that's the case, I might as well go for a Brembo and have a custom bracket made up.

edfmaniac, I think what you're describing is an impact driver. I actually have one of those (I'm no stranger to rounding off bolts and screws!). I did try tapping the bolts with a center punch, but I was hesitant to try the impact driver. If all else fails, though, I'll give that a shot.

I also thought about heating up the whole unit in an oven that I use just for automotive purposes (curing painted parts, etc.). I imagine that the rubber seals inside the caliper are designed to withstand at least a couple hundred degrees, wouldn't you think?

Thanks again for the input!