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250 Sprint/drag special.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2025 2:05 am
by breakwellmz
You don`t see many of these! -

Re: 250 Sprint/drag special.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2025 4:14 am
by Puffs
Ta for that pic, and I might add: probably for a reason!

The leading link front end is odd, and it might even have a sidecar? Cannot see clearly. Big Bing, no air filter, extended rear end & swingarm. What's with the second pot I see on the other side?

Another MZ racer, this one with a headlight:
mz-etz-250_custombike_02-scaled.jpg
mz-etz-250_custombike_09-scaled.jpg

Re: 250 Sprint/drag special.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2025 2:42 am
by breakwellmz
No sidecar, no second pot, only one sparkplug. That`s the bumper of the car on the other side not a second exhaust.

Re: 250 Sprint/drag special.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2025 3:39 am
by Puffs
Well indeed, it's a single 250/300, but it could still have a split exhaust header, to breath into 2 expansion exhausts? Would be a great help in increasing the throughput of the header. With that pot I mean this thing:
2nd muffler on RH side.jpg
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Which to me looks distinctly like a second muffler on the RH side, not a car bumper.
Btw, here's what seems to be the same bike, but now with a new header & that awkward LH expansion exhaust removed (which makes sense, as I guess it would burn your leg):
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On it having a sidecar: see those square tyres, particularly the F one in your pic. Tyres like that will make normal riding difficult. Another indication is the handrail at the rear which, with a seat like that, can only be used by the monkey (= sidecarist). But I'm not sure as we haven’t' seen the RH side of the bike.

Re: 250 Sprint/drag special.

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2025 6:20 am
by mr_luke
A bit of Googling using my best (not very good!) German threw this up:
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https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2456227724649721&id=1633952070210628&set=a.1633954450210390

Re: 250 Sprint/drag special.

PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2025 3:02 am
by Puffs
Thanks for that pic!

But the bike's too high for sidecar racing, IMO. In the past, when the Moto GP class still allowed sidecars, those always were as low as possible. Low engines like the flat twin BMW were popular:
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More modern, with a 4-in-line Fireblade engine:
Sidecar racing.jpg
Also, using a 250 or 300cc ETZ engine for that seems a poor choice - 40hp for 2 big boys? A tuned Fireblade will be in the 230hp range, I'd guess. While that's not very 'classic', also in the classic range there should be better engine choices for sidecar racing.

Anyway, to each his own, and surely this is a classic MZ 2T so thanks go once again to breakwellmz for showing this interesting pic.
As an MX rider I detest sidecars, as they used to ruin the track. And on a deeper level, that sidecar takes away an IMO very important aspect of bike riding: the balancing of the bike in the corner! It'll ride more like a car.