Enlighten me please

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Enlighten me please

Postby frederickflintstone » Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:34 pm

Please excuse my ignorance but can someone explain the difference between a Black Panther/Street Moto, Baghira, Enduro, and Mastiff, Preferably with pictures of each variant. When I insured my new bike today I had to pick one. I bought my bike with no owner’s manual, and still have not procured one. I assume the enduro is just that, an enduro with 18 & 21” wheels. The Skorpion Traveller and Tour seam to be much different As well.
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Re: Enlighten me please

Postby BlueRidgePanther » Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:57 pm

The "Baghira" model encompasses the StreetMoto/BlackPanther and the Enduro. The SM/BP is a supermoto with 17-inch wheels and sportier tires, while the Enduro is a dual purpose bike with 21" front and 18" rear wheels. To complicate things further, the Street Moto is offered in both full height and reduced height versions. The "full height" model has the same suspension travel as the Enduro, whereas the "height reduced" model has the same suspension travel as the Mastiff. Both Mastiffs and Height Reduced SMs feature an unadjustable front fork, whereas the full height SM and Enduro models have compression and rebound damping adjustments. The Mastiff is a differently styled supermoto that utilizes the same frame and engine as the Baghira, but is only offered with supermoto running gear (i.e. 17 wheels, lower suspension). If I'm not mistaken, the Mastiff was available with both cast and wire spoke wheels, whereas the Baghira models were only offered with wirespoke wheels. I'm pretty sure that the cast wheel Mastiffs are fairly rare, however. The StreetMoto was usually delivered with MT60 Pirelli dual-purpose-ish tires whereas the Mastiff was usually delivered with something a little more sport oriented.
The StreetMoto and BlackPanther differ only in color, with the BlackPanther being black and the StreetMoto coming in various colors like red, yellow, and gray. The Baghira Enduro was available in black, the other solid colors, and some weird color scheme thing that may or may not have been available on the Street Moto. The Mastiff looks...different. It was available in various color schemes but the one I've seen the most of is some variation on blue body panels with either black or gray insets.

I think I'm right about all that. It's pretty much just what I've picked up from my manual, perusing forums, and ordering parts :roll:
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THANKS!

Postby frederickflintstone » Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:08 pm

Well that clears up a few things, thank you! I like the dual headlights of the mastiff (gotta figure out how to get a set). Now I just have to figure if my bike is a standard height or a lowered model. Any quick ways to figure that out?
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Re: Enlighten me please

Postby BlueRidgePanther » Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:23 pm

The Height Reduced models have non-adjustable forks up front. The standard height models have a pair of adjustment knobs on top of the fork legs. My adjustment knobs are blue, but I don't know if that's for all years or what.

Also, the standard height model is very tall, whereas the HR model isn't. That's all relative, I know, but the standard height bike is noticeably tall!
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Re: THANKS!

Postby phlat65 » Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:21 pm

frederickflintstone wrote:Well that clears up a few things, thank you! I like the dual headlights of the mastiff (gotta figure out how to get a set). Now I just have to figure if my bike is a standard height or a lowered model. Any quick ways to figure that out?

go to a Buell dealer, and buy the headlamp set for the earlier XB9, they are very inexpensive, I think less than $150. looks very similar
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Re: Enlighten me please

Postby mike » Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:34 am

You don't want the Mastiff headlights, they are poor at best. I may try the Buell idea myself.
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