chain and sprocket

[handsomejackuk]

hi,

need new chain and sprocket, was quoted £100 for the job to be done at my local bike shop does that sound reasonable ?

also, what i wanted to know, is :- is there any point in getting better rear sprocket such as renthal, are they available.... my chain has two rollers missing. i noticed it when i wss lubing the other day... wil this matter for now as i don't have the funds to change yet....

i am confident in doing it myself, and fairly sure i can get hold of the rivetting tool....Any tips ?

Alun

[handsomejackuk]

also,

what are the best options for changing gear ratio, go for different rear sizes or different front sizes... what can i get away without chaning the chain length...

I need better acceleration wheely popping.....

[kman.45]

There should be plenty of aftermarket sprockets available. I have had good luck with the hard anodized aluminum ones in the past on sportbikes, so the low power of the Baghira should be fine. But maybe since the Yamaha XT600 sprockets are the ones that match they only come in steel? I have the 45T rear on that came with the DS sized wheels for my Baggy. It's a bit of an improvement over the stock sized 43T, but honestly could easily go 46 or 47 on rear, or keep 45T and drop one in front. It would still be OK for 70 mph-ish cruising, but would be even better on gravel roads I think. Just have to do the ratio math and see. BTW, you can go up to the 45T and keep the stock length chain on the SM, but it's very close. The factory used a chain with like 4 extra links on the DS than the SM, so if you want to upsize your rear sprocket I'd suggest 2-4 extra links over the stock SM length.

[MSW]

need new chain and sprocket, was quoted £100 for the job to be done at my local bike shop does that sound reasonable ?

A hundred pounds for a chain and sprocket? That seems very heavy. Mine weigh four or five pounds at most.

Seriously, over here in the U.S., it's tough even finding sprockets for the XT600, so I have to take what I can get for my Baggy. The best source so far as been JT Sprockets (available from just about any supplier). They make both steel and alloy versions, and both fit perfectly (I don't have any problems with bolt clearance, as some have reported). Last time around, I got a 40 tooth alloy and the time before that a 41 tooth steel. Both were great. I haven't burned all the way through the alloy yet, so I can't report on their relative durability. I'm sure I've gained 7-8 HP due to the weight savings, though.

If you get yourself a proper chain breaker/press, it's a very easy job. Seriously. Even if you're an extreme novice such as myself, chain and sprocket maintenance are great confidence builders. I would make sure the tool you use is good quality, though. I tried this one: http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/tools/view/t_6_chain_tool/, and it just couldn't do the job, so I ended up getting this one: http://www.cyclepages.com/ProductGroupDisp.aspx?ProductGroupID=4603473.

Good luck!!!

[handsomejackuk]

Awwwwwwwww

you all are a really nice lot, despite what other people say.

Thanks for the advice will definitley look at replacing the lot after Christmas. My mate works as a Vehicle technician in a local college, and they maintain Bikes there, so I think He can get hold of the tool for me...

Front Sprocket i can get for £13.97

Rear sprocket is £17.08

Chain is £ 49.93

or a complete kit is :- £71.93

just got to get my hands dirty....

Is oil easy to get off my hands ?

Alun


Merry Christmas All.....

[DAVID THOMPSON]

Is oil easy to get off my hands ?
YES tide laundry soap does a good job

on the other hand a red headed woman can be hard to get off your hands
problem 1 you may not want to let go !
problem 2 you may have a hard time finding some one as crazy as she is to take her!

dave

[Baghiman]

I have found a really good site that sells quite a few pattern parts for the Baghira.
It's £71.93 for a D.I.D or Izumi complete kit which are both high quality.
I had the D.I.D set on my Skorpion and it lasted 24 months of hard riding and I'm now about to get the same for my Baggy.

The link to the site is below

http://shop.wemoto.com/index.dyn?oid=5835470

You will also find on the Wemoto pages a sprocket gear ratio chart.

http://shop.wemoto.com/info.dyn?title=S ... ear_Ratios

If you want really mega fast acceleration which will result in awesome wheelies then get a 14 tooth front (£13.97) and a 47 tooth rear (£18.01)
and you will still be able to use the standard chain.

I hope this helps you out

[handsomejackuk]

baghman,

thanks for that, i didsee that site before, and probably will get off them.. was thinking 15 tooth front, and 47 rear. any idea what length chain i will need for that ?

will give them a ring and sort it this week

thanks Al

[hutchy]

I got mine from wemoto, very quick delivery and good kit.
I put 15/45 on mine after trying lower gearing which just caused it to be all revs and no go. i also have a bsm pipe on which also seems to complement the set up and it now feels like it should of when it left the factory, it will pull quickly up to the ton but not much after that, but thats enough to still get into bother with the plod

[MSW]

Al,

Just curious, why a 47T? You want to do wheelies all day?

I've had everything from a 41 to a 45 on the rear with a 15T front and the stock chain length (114, I believe). The chain was just about at its inner limit with the 45, so I'd say you have to add a couple of links if you're going to go all the way to 47. I'm no chain/sprocket expert, but FWIW, MZ used to have a 52T rear sprocket option on the Enduro (w/the stock 15T front), and they used a 118 link chain with that. So, if I was going to go up to 47T, I'd probably go with a 116 link chain.

That's just my shade-tree mechanic opinion, though. No guarantees.

[Bill Jurgenson]

hi,

FWIW, for every additional tooth, you need another additional link. Obviously, with a motocycle chain, you cannot add just one link; you always have to add two: one inside plus one outside link. So if the 114 was just long enuf for 45, then 116 will be just long enuf for 47. Better to go for 118 and pull the tensioners back again. the longer wheelbase will also help against those wheelies.

[handsomejackuk]

Quick update,

got my chain off today, as weather is crap here, also removed the plastic chain guide fitted to the front secion of swing arm. degreased all parts, including the area behind front sprocket. Checked for prices of parts today, front sprocket i can gert for £10.99 rear i can get for £18 and an e.k. gold x-ring chain for £55. Is this chain any good ? will be changing gearing to 15/47 to try it out. Would a 116 link chain be alright ? Standard chain is 114 link....

Also does anyone recommend changing the front chain guide as it had a few wear marks in it. how much are they ?


THanks for now

Alun

[kman.45]

Seems a pretty good price to me. I just got new JT sprockets, front and rear for about $52 US out the door. And that price on an X-ring chain sounds fine to me, it's a significant upgrade to the stock chain for sure. 116 links would sound good for the gearing you are choosing. I wouldn't change the chain guide unless it shows significant wear? My bike has 33K Km and my guides really don't show too much wear. I do wonder who's parts those are now that you have asked that question? probably some KTM things..

Quick update,

got my chain off today, as weather is crap here, also removed the plastic chain guide fitted to the front secion of swing arm. degreased all parts, including the area behind front sprocket. Checked for prices of parts today, front sprocket i can gert for £10.99 rear i can get for £18 and an e.k. gold x-ring chain for £55. Is this chain any good ? will be changing gearing to 15/47 to try it out. Would a 116 link chain be alright ? Standard chain is 114 link....

Also does anyone recommend changing the front chain guide as it had a few wear marks in it. how much are they ?


THanks for now

Alun

[handsomejackuk]

hi,

goto my chain and sprocket kit today from wemoto £78 looks good quality stuff... only problem i got is how to join the chain... it has a soft link which has a copper/ brass end on the link...

Do i need any special tool to peen over the end of the link can it be done wiv 'an 'ammer or is it best to borrow a proper tool for this job....?

Did phone a mate tonight and he said to get a split link like on dah old bicycle chains can i get one for this d.i.d. chain 520vx would be easier, but not to sure about reliability...

I am in a right state about this and need some help...

think i will have problems sleeping tonite...


Thanks Alun

[MSW]

Al,

If you can't lay your hands on a proper chain tool, I would look for one of the "snap-on" links. I wouldn't risk doing a regular chain rivet with anything but a good quality, purpose built chain press.

That said, if at all possible, I'd try to find that proper tool and do the rivet link rather than the snap-on link. In my 20 years of riding, I've had my share of chains with snap-on links, and I've never had a single problem with one. But considering the very bad things that could happen when a chain comes apart on the road, I MUCH prefer the security of a well-riveted master link.

Just my $0.02