Recon/Replacement Skorpion Starter motor

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Recon/Replacement Skorpion Starter motor

Postby djsbriscoe » Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:15 am

Hi,
Can anyone suggest which motorcycles use the same starter motor as the skorpion (Mitsuba SM-13)? Are there any motor reconditioners out there where I can buy a refurbished unit? Are there any peculiarities I should look for when trying to track down a replacement off another bike (non Skorpion)

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Re: Recon/Replacement Skorpion Starter motor

Postby Anders » Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:13 pm

Any Yamaha 660cc 5-valve engine is a suitable donor for the starter, i.e. Yamaha SZR or XTZ 660 or MuZ/MZ Tour/Traveler/Baghira/Black Panter etc.

You can find al lot of starters on e-bay (http://www.ebay.de seems to be the best place search for "anlasser" in German) or at the breakers.
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Re: Recon/Replacement Skorpion Starter motor

Postby netguz » Mon Jan 25, 2010 2:06 pm

The mitsuba sm-13 seems to be fitted to many jap bikes, check out

http://stores.shop.ebay.co.uk/CHENZ-SPA ... mit=Search

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Re: Recon/Replacement Skorpion Starter motor

Postby Anders » Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:11 pm

netguz wrote:The mitsuba sm-13 seems to be fitted to many jap bikes, check out

http://stores.shop.ebay.co.uk/CHENZ-SPA ... mit=Search

Jon

Just be sure that you get one that fits, there are CW and CCW versions out there as well as 9 and 10 tooth sprockets with quite an assortment of various interface adaptations for diffrent models and makes.
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Re: Recon/Replacement Skorpion Starter motor

Postby netguz » Wed Jan 27, 2010 11:18 am

Thanks for that Anders.

Now, what's CW and CCW?

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Re: Recon/Replacement Skorpion Starter motor

Postby Anders » Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:37 pm

netguz wrote:Thanks for that Anders.

Now, what's CW and CCW?

Clockwise and Counter Clockwise rotation
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Re: Recon/Replacement Skorpion Starter motor

Postby netguz » Thu Jan 28, 2010 1:37 am

Thanks Anders.
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Re: Recon/Replacement Skorpion Starter motor

Postby djsbriscoe » Tue Mar 02, 2010 1:41 pm

Hi,
So is the Skorpion starter CW or CCW in rotation? How many teeth does the sprocket have? I might be able to get a recon unit so I need the info.
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Re: Recon/Replacement Skorpion Starter motor

Postby Anders » Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:36 pm

As far as I can tell the following bikes all share the same starter.

Please check part numbers with your friendly Yamaha dealer to verify that the below info is correct before bying an alternative starter.

MT-03
SZR 660
TT 600 E ( 4GV / 4LW Belgarda )
TT 600 RE ( DJ01 Belgarda )
XT 600 3TB / 3UW
XT 600 DJ02 / 4PT / 4SL
XT 600 R 5VK
XT 600 X 1D / 10S
XTZ 660 Tenere 3YF
XTZ 660 Tenere 4MY
XTZ 660 Tenere 11D
MuZ/MZ 660 all models
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Re: Recon/Replacement Skorpion Starter motor

Postby djsbriscoe » Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:55 am

Hi,
Can the oil pipe behind the starter motor be removed safely without any other work needed. I'm assuming that oil can't be drained as the engine is a dry sump type. The pipe is blocking the removal of the motor by sliding it backwards.
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Re: Recon/Replacement Skorpion Starter motor

Postby Bill Jurgenson » Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:02 pm

assuming you mean the black steel pipe (feed to 5th gear) on the right, yes, you can simply take it off.
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Re: Recon/Replacement Skorpion Starter motor

Postby djsbriscoe » Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:34 pm

Hi,
This is the pipe

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Is it safe to remove the pipe behind the starter?


Thanks

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