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Re: Head Gasket/High Comp Piston

Postby edfmaniac » Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:41 pm

samandkimberly wrote:This is about avoiding the ~$40 each overseas shipping cost


I don't think Bill would charge you shipping for each unit if you ordered four of them to one address either. I'm just sayin'...... :wink:
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Re: Head Gasket/High Comp Piston

Postby morbidelli17 » Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:15 am

And hey, just to be clear, all I was wondering was that if Bill J. needed to get his hands on a unit to program it, what sense would it make to ship them to the U.S., then ship them back to him? I was unclear on the process of programming the unit. Apparently, it is something the end user can do.

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Still trying to figure which way to go on this. Will let y'all know - M
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Re: Head Gasket/High Comp Piston

Postby Bill Jurgenson » Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:47 am

shipping to the US by DHL would be about 20$

repeating myself get tiresome...
will gladly supply the "map" I use


I don't need to have to box.
The user needs to have a PC with XP or 7 ( or - igad - Vista) and RS232 interface cable.

This one if the PC still has that serial port
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but more probably this kind:
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which needs a driver under Windoze

the Box needs to be under power, i.e. either installed and the ignition turned on or, at the desk,with a 12v battery or DC power supply to the two pins 13 & 14.
http://www.ignitech.cz/english/tcip/manual_sparker_tcip4_v80_en.pdf

Sparker_w.powersupply.jpg


This is with a Mac OSX and XP running with bootcamp.
I normally use a little ASUS netbook running XP, either at the bike (e.g.when I ride to meetings) or at the desk with the powersupply which is what I do with new boxes when I get them.
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Re: Head Gasket/High Comp Piston

Postby samandkimberly » Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:39 pm

OK, this is all getting a little complicated for me. I want to try one of these out in my Baghira, and I have some other applications (Moto Morini) I may be able to use these in, so I'm ordering 4 of them tomorrow. Barring unforeseen customs issues I'll sell 2, maybe 3 of these for 175.00 delivered via USPS in the US. I'll program with anything you can describe, from there you can program yourself to your hearts content, if you have a PC, a serial cable and can read English. If you want *exactly* what Bill Jurgenson has then I recommend you consider giving him your business.

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Re: Head Gasket/High Comp Piston

Postby edfmaniac » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:44 pm

I really don't have much invested in this little debate about where to get the box from but I personally would rather spend the extra $12 to $15, depending on conversion rates, and purchase one that we know is programmed correctly and is a proven product. What if they send you the wrong connector or a harness with a wire out of place? I guess you'll find out when it doesn't run or sends the rod through the piston.
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Re: Head Gasket/High Comp Piston

Postby Bill Jurgenson » Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:53 am

just to set things straight, if you order a TCIP4 with connector cable for the SZR then you get exactly what I get from them.
In the beginning there was confusion on this point as the cable did not include the tach pin for the late Skorpions and the SZR.
So, late Skorpions and Baggis need the SZR cable, otherwise the tach doesn't work.
The late model instruments get a dedicated signal from the box, early model Skorpions take the signal from the minus pin of the coil; there is no pin for the tach on that Denso box or in the harness.

Jan speaks English as does Blanka well enuf. There is no confusion on this.

So if you order directly, stipulate for the Yamaha SZR.
And as I said, I will gladly mail the mapping file. Everything else can be downloaded free at the Ignitech site.
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Re: Head Gasket/High Comp Piston

Postby cat » Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:58 am

Bill, would we have to pay the VAT? (If we're outside of EU, I mean.) You would have had to pay it, I guess.
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Re: Head Gasket/High Comp Piston

Postby Bill Jurgenson » Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:56 am

if I have to pay it, so do you, but as it is on the invoice, US customs whould have to refund it.
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Re: Head Gasket/High Comp Piston

Postby hb7 » Sat Mar 31, 2012 3:58 pm

As a US importer of MC parts from the EU, I know about this. No duty is due by US customs for MC parts.
Clearance through the US post office for less than $200 is free.
Above $200 requires US customs Informal entry + filing fees, but no duty. These fees run about $375.

The VAT would be refundable through the CZ customs/tax board, however they should not charge VAT
for shipment out side the EU.
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Re: Head Gasket/High Comp Piston

Postby Bill Jurgenson » Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:48 am

true but since the question was about what happens when I resell the Sparker ready to use, I answered for my case.
As I have already written, I do not have any particular desire to deal in these units or other Ignitech goodies sucbh as their superb rectifier unit for US customers. I have sold a couple of Sparkers to the States.
I think it would be better for someone like you to handle these if the market seems to be growing. I will gladly supply the mapping and any tech advice necessary free of charge as I have also already written.
Dealing with EU customers is simple; inter-europe postage is very cheap and there are no customs to contend with. For me, it is also a tax office legal question as well. As a company I cannot legally sell anything without VAT unless the customer has a EU-VAT number to prove that he is exempt. I must book all incoming funds to my bank account and pay the VAT they imply for each booking unless I can show that the customer is exempt. Thus I could only (tho not legally) sell a unit at net price against cash in the hand, obviously not an option in this case. My PayPal account is just as much a bank account as my other "real" bank accounts and has its own columns on the books. I pay Ignitech thru PayPal for instance. In the past bank transfer to non-german banks was a bit of a hassle but potentially expensive, to UK banks obscenely expensive (e.g. at least 25€!) to US banks virtually impossible. Court rulings have forced the banks to 1) no longer charge for EU transfers and, 2) to use the IBAN (International Bank Account Number)and SWIFT codes for all transfers inside as well as outside of the own country. Transfers to the Czech Republic are as simple as to my wife's bank account. Still PayPal has the advantage of being instantaneous.
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Re: Head Gasket/High Comp Piston

Postby cat » Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:48 am

Unfortunately, unless you would "gift" it to me, :P I would have to pay import duty + VAT here, calculated on the EU VAT-inclusive price. :(
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Re: Head Gasket/High Comp Piston

Postby morbidelli17 » Sat Apr 14, 2012 5:54 pm

Quick update. With my 9.9:1 piston on 100 unleaded petrol, rear wheel HP up to 50.9. So far, dead reliable; put about 100 track miles on it with no sign of trouble. Fast enough for Chuckwalla. And that'll be about five horses more (or about 10 percent more) than I had last time I was out at Willow Springs' big track. With the new forks, rebuilt shock and SV wheels, I really am looking forward to racing there again. I miss that track - although I suppose you'd miss any track where you felt you were going well.

Anyway, here's another pic. Thanks for the heads-up on the ignition situation. I have a feeling that I'll be looking at that issue during the summer break ...

2012-04-April Apr-08-2012-SoCal_Trackdays 11AM Turn 15 Inside IMG_0079.JPG
2012-04-April Apr-08-2012-SoCal_Trackdays 1PM The Bowl IMG_0659.JPG
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