Etz front mudguard

[tigcraft]

Does anyone know which way round it fits as both sides are same length and one end has a very slight fold on it?

[Blurredman]

Hi,

The slight fold goes on the front.. I should think that this is to prevent rain/mud spraying forward. It is supposed to catch it essentially. Some ideas and proceedures that seem to have been forgotten about in motorn motorcycle production..

[Puffs]

Or too expensive nowadays... for which people don't want to pay anymore?

[Blurredman]

Nah. If modern bikes have not but plastic mudguards, plastic chain guards, plastic side casings, plastic fairings, plastic pistons..

The manufacturers do this.. The difference is people still buy it.. But it won't change.. People will always think that a 5 year old car is 'on it's last legs' and be looking to replace it..

[tigcraft]

I did think that the lip would go forward to catch the dregs....

[Puffs]

I'd like my piston made of Stilton please. Plastic smells unnatural.

[Blurredman]

To be fair to Tig, which ever way it was placed, it would still catch crap- Except there would be no reason for it to be at the rear- as that is not in the direction of travel. Plus if things are caught in there, then it is more likely to fall out from the lip edge facing the ground instead of being paralell with it where it would never fall out.


My point still stands though regarding the lack of such a forgettable but useful item..


Modern bikes barely have any mudguards anyway, they shouldn't even be called mudguards anymore- they cover barely any of the tyre surface.
They just lessen the spray a bit, maybe add some rigidity (if it has metal bracing in it but normally don't), and also just happen to comply with the law in most countries just requiring one to be there for law's sake.

Without the lip, infact any mudguard that doesn't at least fold downwards over the front of the wheel will always give spray, that rises through rotation into the air.. A ride in some moist roads, will show that the specs of dirty water get flown into the air, and then you end up riding through these and your bike is then covered in small spots of mud/dirt.

This is what I think anyway.

[Guesi]

The lip is in the front simply becaue else there is a greater danger for pedestrians or other accident casualties to be injured severely-...

[Puffs]

Well that's again a good point Guesi. And also the law in some countries may have specified the F side on steel mudguards to be rounded for safety reasons (otherwise it's a knife in the direction of motion). And that ridge does the trick. That law probably only applies for steel, not for plastic.

Yes, with the wheel rotating, the actual wind direction right below the mudguard when riding might be forward, particularly if the mudguard sits close to the tyre. So if there's water flowing forward on the inner surface of the mudguard, driven by that wind, is that lip going to stop it exiting at the end? In the presence of that lip, is that water then just going to vanish? No, if that flow is there, the water will still come out from below the lip & add to the spray. But I think most of the water normally comes out at the bottom end.

Most of the spray comes directly from the wet tyre, centrifuged off. Yes, the lip will catch a bit of it, it's about as effective as setting a similar mudguard, but without that lip, a bit closer to the tyre, closer by the depth of that ridge. But obviously the advantage of the ridge is that you then have a bit more clearance. IMO the ridge has an advantage in being slightly more effective, it's just a very small advantage.

[tigcraft]

I like how it brings the politics out in discussions. I’ve fitted it with the folded lip at the front to conclude btw. In the meantime we can still chat.......

[Puffs]

Politics???

[Blurredman]

This video might be of help..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT_gle9OaMA

Go to 4:55.

[Puffs]

Ta, the real political part starts at 5:55.

Isn't this the one with the black HT lead?

[tigcraft]

This video might be of help..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT_gle9OaMA

Go to 4:55.

Thats a fabulous old video with plenty of reference points although rather fuzzy wuzzy blurred

[Gerryman Ts125]

It faces to the front of your cycle. But being struck by any powered two wheeled cycle would chop you up as a pedestrian. Newer ones have impact protection (fairings, plastic headlight covers and mountings.)) So they don't poke though to inpail any stupid humans or pets. Waste of good nurses time though.